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Feedback on charter
thanks for the changes, and I agree to all of your suggestions. Let's
schedule the first phone call and discuss what is left to discuss after
people have made uptheir minds.
Andreas R. Maier
IBM Senior Technical Staff Member, eServer Software Design
IBM Lab Boeblingen, email@example.com, Phone +49-7031-16-3654
---------------------- Forwarded by Andreas Maier/Germany/IBM on 16.08.2002
Peter Gietz <Peter.Gietz@daasi.de> on 16.08.2002 20:25:08
To: Andreas Maier/Germany/IBM@IBMDE
cc: firstname.lastname@example.org, Carl Kesselman <email@example.com>
Subject: Re: Feedback on charter
Today I did some work on the web pages. You can now find the agenda and
the presentations of the BoF
I am still waiting for the agenda.
Let me now comment on Andreas' email:
Andreas Maier wrote:
>I visited the work group site at http://www.daasi.de/wgs/CGS and I agree
>with the charter.
>I do have a few minor formal comments:
> - I guess you should mention who the chairs of the work group are.
> - The userids in the email addresses of the 3 IBMers from Boeblingen
> in upper case, this looks pretty ancient. Please change to lower case.
> Some others have typos in the mailto: (Carl) or displayed text (Jenny).
done, sorry for the typos
> - Apply name change of work group CIMGIS -> CGS everywhere.
> - The "CIMGRID" short name for the model being developed could also be
> named CGS. Why introduce a new name, that only makes it necessary to
> explain the difference every time.
> - Mention the mailing list which has been set up in the mean time.
done with link to archive
> - Mention the web site which has been set up in the mean time.
> - The GGF web site does not yet mention this new WG. I assume this will
> be pursued once the board approves the charter ?
>and a couple of content related comments:
> - "The CIMGIS working group wants to define a new Grid information
> based on the Common Information Model (CIM) that is being standadized
> the DMTF" -> I suggest to say "owned" instead of "being standardized",
> because there are existing versions of the standard as well as new ones
> that are under work.
IMHO "owned" may say more as you indocate here. Does DMTF have to allow
people to use CIM for modelling their own data? Others please comment on
this to get some concensus.
> - I suggest to produce only one final document covering the Grid schema
> requirements, the CIM profile, and the specification of a Grid schema.
> We can start to look somewhat broader as we do in the CIM profile work,
> and collect what is there, but in the end game we should be producing a
> schema spec and the set of stuff we looked at at the start of the work
> at some point gets anecdotal character I think. So what I think the
> of documents in this area should be, is as follows. Each step produces
> document that can be published.
> 1. Produce requirements document, draft version
> 2. Extend that to add the existing CIM classes that play a role (CIM
> profile), still draft version
> 3. Extend that to add specification of the grid schema, CIM profile
> stuff gets moved to appendix, still draft version
> 4. Finalize this for submission to the GGF document process.
> I think this comment is nothing that would prevent the charter to be
> submitted to the GGF board. This is a minor topic on how to organize
> work, and we can discuss this as we go.
Again this seems to have to be discussed on the list. I am looking
forward to get a discussion going on what documents we should work on.
After a sort of consensus I will change the charter accordingly.
>I think we need to have regular calls, e.g. weekly, and I can offer to set
>up e-meetings with Lotus SameTime. You should make the decision whether or
>not we would be doing it that way, if yes I will provide the information
>how to test SameTime for everybody (It does not require installation of a
>product, it is browser based.)
Thanks for this. I think it is a good idea to have regular virtual
meetings (phone or SameTime). But once a week seems to often to me, what
about twice a month?
>I sign up to provide input and review all the documents we will produce. I
>also sign up to be the editor of the schema spec and any documents it
>emerges from, if you still need one.
Thank you very much for your committment. Please go ahead, but we should
first agree whether about the number and structure of the documents.
Others: please comment on this.
>Andreas R. Maier
>IBM Senior Technical Staff Member, eServer Software Design
>IBM Lab Boeblingen, firstname.lastname@example.org, Phone +49-7031-16-3654
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