[cgs-wg] Fwd: BOUNCE jsdl-wg@gridforum.org: Non-member submission from [Peter Gietz <Peter.Gietz@daasi.de>]

[Jennifer Schopf <jms@mcs.anl.gov>]

ditto

Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 11:05:12 -0600
From: owner-jsdl-wg@gridforum.org
To: owner-jsdl-wg@gridforum.org
Subject: BOUNCE jsdl-wg@gridforum.org:    Non-member submission from [Peter Gietz <Peter.Gietz@daasi.de>]  
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 18:05:05 +0100
From: Peter Gietz <Peter.Gietz@daasi.de>
To: Ali Anjomshoaa <ali@epcc.ed.ac.uk>
CC: JSDL WG <jsdl-wg@gridforum.org>, cgs-wg@gridforum.org
Subject: Re: CIM-based Grid Schema Working Group

Hi all,

Ali Anjomshoaa wrote:
 > Peter, do you think you can comment on how you think your JSIM work may
 > contribute to the JSDL efforts in defining an XML based job submission
 > language?


Well the overall scope of the two groups is different, AFAICS. While
JSDL is about sending a job to the grid, JSIM is about managing a job
inside the grid. Anyway I see that there will be some attributes for
describing a job that overlap in both activities. We should see that
these overlapping attributes should be defined in a compatible way, i.e.
with the same semantics. In so far I see the need of inter-group
communication.

Another side comment: since CIM is a very generic way to modell data
(sort of UML like), it might be worth while to think about moddeling the
JSDL in CIM and then map it to XML. But this is just my 2 cent.


Cheers,

Peter


> Hi Everyone,
>
> The CGS WG of the Performance and Information Services Area
>
> [ http://www.isi.edu/~flon/cgs-wg/index.htm ]
>
> has a very interesting document on Job Submission Interface Model
> (JSIM).
>
> [ http://www.isi.edu/~flon/cgs-wg/jsim/jsim.doc ]
>
> The JSIM is a model based on (and extends) the DMTF's Common Information
> Model (CIM) job schema. I am not familiar with this work, although after a
> first run through the document I believe that this job submission model is
> relevant to our work on defining a common JSDL (also a model?).
>
> Has anyone studied this document? Does anyone have any comments on
> this? Can we clarify our position with respect to this work?
>
> Peter Gietz is one of the CGS WG chairs and has drawn our attention to
> their work and a possible collaboration. It is possible that we can tease
> out a CIM based RDL, like the one we mention in our web pages, that
> marries well with a JSDL.
>
> Peter, do you think you can comment on how you think your JSIM work may
> contribute to the JSDL efforts in defining an XML based job submission
> language?
>
> Look forward to hearing your thoughts.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ali
>
>
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