RE: [sem-grd] Primer meeting

["Pouchard, Line Catherine" <pouchardlc@ornl.gov>]

Ann:
We just exchanged this with Marlon for the primer contribution.  Maybe
we could work together on ESG and some items of section 2 if you are
interested.  Line


-----Original Message-----
From: Marlon Pierce [mailto:mpierce@cs.indiana.edu] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 1:29 PM
To: Pouchard, Line Catherine
Cc: sem-grd@gridforum.org
Subject: Re: [sem-grd] Primer meeting


Sounds great.  Can you please develop a more refined outline for the 
metadata section and indicate the specific subsections you want (or 
don't want) to write? 

Please also contribute climate and nanoscience examples.  The "Case 
Studies" section can have as many examples as we can get.   The short 
primer will draw from the best of these.

Marlon
 
Pouchard, Line Catherine wrote:

> Marlon:
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> I am interested in contributing/leading Section 2: Metadata
> representation; but not do it without at least one other person 
> (several would be better).
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> There are lots of examples in various sciences (but the grid is not
> always popular) where metadata, schema mediation, workflow 
> composition, etc.. are needed.   Personally, I can contribute stories 
> for climate sciences and nano sciences (DOE SNS, new user facility).
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> Many of the physical sciences are only starting to recognize their
> needs which vary quite a lot from one to another.  For instance:
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> *small user community, large data sizes, multiple files and archives.
> (example: climate)
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> *hundreds of scientists but small files available on personal machines
> (not archives).  (example:  bio).  However the size of files is 
> changing fast.  There is also a need to discover networks of 
> interaction between variables working at various scales.
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> *flexible workflows: bio
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> *fixed workflows during an experiment, the course of a simulation,
> and/or in the way of doing a particular science (fusion, combustion).

> Here workflows tend to be hardwired.
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> *cultural issues: some sciences are more ready to accept new
> technologies than others, many have been burned in the past, others 
> plainly don't have time. 
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> The primer can do a lot to dispel some myths here (but not expect
> miracles!).  The examples will need to be picked out carefully in 
> order to really highlight where the Semantic Grid can make a 
> difference, and also address a community relatively open to new 
> technologies.  In other words, the killer app.
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> Line
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> -----Original Message-----
>
> From: owner-sem-grd@gridforum.org [mailto:owner-sem-grd@gridforum.org]
> On Behalf Of Marlon Pierce
>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 1:43 AM
>
> To: sem-grd@gridforum.org
>
> Subject: [sem-grd] Primer meeting
>
> I've attached (again) the proposed prime outline.  We will be meeting 
> to
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> work on this tomorrow at 1:00 pm in South Pacific Room 3.  Note the
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> primer itself is intended to contain shortened versions of #2-7.  
> After
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> a discussion with Jim Myers, I'd like to emphasize that we have two
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> intended audiences: GGF types and application user types.  For the
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> latter group, we really need some short but intriguing examples of 
> what
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> the Semantic Grid should enable for various fields: bioinformatics,
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> chemistry, etc.
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> Marlon
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